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Here at What if they were Muslim we question what would happen if a Jewish, Christian, Hindu, ______(insert religion of choice) were to commit a crime in the name of their faith. Would it be treated the same way if a Muslim committed the exact same crime? Would very little emphasis be put on the perpetrators religion? Would it be stressed that the act is an aberration, a misrepresentation of the religion? Would the religion be mentioned at all?

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WITWM is not a site that opines on the “what if” scenario of your favorite Hollywood star being a Muslim. It has nothing to do with Angelina Jolie or Johnny Depp, etc. It has everything to do with the double standards in both media and pop culture that perpetuate the myth that Islam is inherently more violent than other religions or the root cause of misdeeds by Muslims.

Man Attacks Daughter-in-law Because He Thought She Was Having An Affair With A Muslim Man

Man Attacks Daughter-in-law Because He Thought She Was Having An Affair With A Muslim Man

Sikhism has nothing to do with this sort of grisly attack, as some Daily Mail commenters are all too predictably insinuating. This sort of offense is linked to culture and notions of honor, not religion.

If the perpetrator had been a Muslim, this would be headlines on all news outlets and accusations linking Islam to “honor crimes” would be a central theme of reports. (h/t: Aayjay)

What if they were Muslim?

Shocking injuries of Sikh woman stabbed in the eyes by her father-in-law who accused her of having an affair with a Muslim as he is jailed for 10 years

By COREY CHARLTON and EMMA GLANFIELD (DailyMail)

This photo shows the horrific injuries a Sikh woman suffered after being attacked by her father-in-law because he thought she was having an affair with a Muslim man.

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Jageer Mirgind was left blind and scarred for life after 51-year-old Manjit Mirgind slashed her wrists and stabbed her in the eyes screaming ‘I am going to kill you’.

Mrs Mirgind’s children, just three and six years old, watched the horrific attack at their mother’s home in Kensington Gardens, Ilford, East London, and pleaded with their grandfather to stop.

The mother has been left partially-sighted in both eyes while the children can no longer sleep alone and have recurring nightmares.

The crazed attacker wrongly believed his daughter-in-law was ‘sleeping with a Paki’ and that she had ‘ruined his family’, Snaresbrook Crown Court heard.

Tragically, Mirgind misunderstood the situation when his daughter was the victim of a series of prank calls.

After punching her in the face he dragged her into the kitchen where he savagely kicked her before grabbing a knife.

He eventually left and went home as his wife called an ambulance for Mrs Mirgind. He later turned himself in at the police station and told them exactly what had happened.

Judge Nigel Peters QC said: ‘You have accepted that you have caused the most serious injuries to your daughter in law.

‘You set about her having taken umbrage because you felt she was having affairs when it turned out she had been receiving prank calls.

‘You set out with great hostility and vengeance – you punched her, forced to the ground and kicked her and took knives to her face and wrist to gouge her eyes.

‘She has since lost a lot of sight in both eyes and there is major scarring to her face.

‘She has a stutter as well, most likely caused by the loss of confidence and lack of sleep and general work.

‘So distressing was that her children, your grandchildren, witnessed it from start to finish and pleaded with you to stop but you did not stop.’

Father-of-four Mirgind stared at the floor as he was jailed for ten years and eight months at Snaresbrook Crown Court.

Crown lawyer Jonathan Turner said Mrs Mirgind’s children had suffered, having begged the defendant to stop and they saw the blood everywhere.

‘Their life has changed and they cannot sleep alone while the marriage of their parents has disintegrated.’

Mrs Mirgind has since moved to Nottingham with her two children.

The court heard the defendant Mirgind had been a leading member of the Sikh community and often drove young worshippers to the temple.

Jordanian Man Killed His Daughter For Converting to Islam

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Jordanian Man Killed His Daughter For Converting to Islam

Don’t expect to see this in an “Honor diaries” near you. May this woman and all victims of so-called “honor killings” rest in peace.

If the father who crushed his daughter’s skull had been Muslim, you can be sure that this would all over US and Euro media outlets.

*It should be noted that relations between Muslims and Christians in Jordan are harmonious. (h/t: Baktashi)

Two charged with premeditated murder of Ajloun woman

(Jordan Times)

AMMAN — The Criminal Court prosecutor on Sunday charged a man and his brother with complicity in premeditated murder in connection with the killing of a woman, who allegedly converted from Christianity to Islam, in Ajloun, 70km northwest of Amman, official sources said.

The 26-year-old victim died after receiving several blows to the head with a wooden stick and a rock in a forest in Khirbet Wahadneh on April 30.

The victim’s father headed to a police station on Wednesday evening and turned himself in, declaring that “he killed his daughter because she converted to Islam,” a senior official source said.

However, police had suspicions that more than one person took part in the murder based on an autopsy report prepared by pathologist Ali Shotar from Irbid’s National Institute of Forensic Medicine, the official told The Jordan Times.

Shotar, who established that the woman died of a crushed skull that caused heavy bleeding, also discovered bruises on her wrists, a medical source told The Jordan Times.

“Shotar concluded that more than one person was involved because the bruises indicated that she was held while she was beaten by the wooden stick and the 50cm by 30cm rock,” the medical source added.

In his initial confession to police, the 51-year-old father said that he learnt about his daughter’s conversion to Islam from another daughter.

“The victim’s decision to convert was a secret but she decided to tell one of her sisters who eventually told their father,” the official source said, citing the suspect’s initial confession.

The father then informed his 49-year-old brother and they allegedly plotted to murder her, the source added.

Both men were ordered detained at a correctional and rehabilitation centre pending further investigation into the incident, the source added.

High School Student Brought Loaded AK-47 To School: Police

High School Student Brought Loaded AK-47 To School: Police

The Huffington Post  | by  Emily Thomas

A 17-year-old student allegedly brought three loaded guns, including an AK-47, and a knife to his Texas school Monday morning.

James Madison High School in San Antonio, Texas, was placed on lockdown until the unidentified student, who also had additional ammunition in his backpack, was taken into custody. No injuries were reported at the school of over 3,200 students, according to The Associated Press.

KSAT News reports the boy’s parents woke up Monday and discovered that their son and three of their guns were gone from their home. When they went to his school, they found their son on campus and then sat down with administrators, at which point they checked his backpack and discovered the ammo and two of the three guns. A third gun was found in a bathroom trash can, the San Antonio Express-News reports.

North East Independent School District spokeswoman Aubrey Chancellor said it is unclear exactly what the student planned to do with the weapons.

“The student had said that he planned making some demands over the announcements later today at Madison High School,” she told local outlet KSAT Monday. “He didn’t say specifically what those demands were, but he did say if those demands were not met, he had planned on committing violence.”

Monday’s incident comes days after the school district received an anonymous threat via email that a mass shooting would take place last Thursday, according to San Antonio Express-News.

U.S. Right Wing Extremists More Deadly Than Jihadists

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The following article by Peter Bergen is pretty good though it fails to explicitly describe the attack on the Jewish Community Centers as ‘terrorist attacks.’

U.S. right wing extremists more deadly than jihadists

(CNN) – On Sunday, a man shot and killed a 14-year-old boy and his grandfather at the Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City and then drove to a nearby Jewish retirement community where he shot and killed a third person. Police arrested a suspect, Frazier Glenn Cross, who shouted “Heil Hitler” after he was taken into custody.

Cross, who also goes by Frazier Glenn Miller, is a well-known right wing extremist who founded the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and the White Patriot Party, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Now let’s do the thought experiment in which instead of shouting “Heil Hitler” after he was arrested, the suspect had shouted “Allahu Akbar.” Only two days before the first anniversary of the Boston Marathon bombings, this simple switch of words would surely have greatly increased the extent and type of coverage the incident received.

Yet the death toll in the shootings in Kansas is similar to that of last year’s Boston Marathon bombings, where three people were killed and the suspects later killed a police officer as they tried to evade capture. (Many more, of course, were also wounded in the Boston attacks; 16 men, women and children lost limbs.)

In fact, since 9/11 extremists affiliated with a variety of far-right wing ideologies, including white supremacists, anti-abortion extremists and anti-government militants, have killed more people in the United States than have extremists motivated by al Qaeda’s ideology. According to a count by the New America Foundation, right wing extremists have killed 34 people in the United States for political reasons since 9/11. (The total includes the latest shootings in Kansas, which are being classified as a hate crime).

KKK: We Aren’t Hatefilled Terrorists, We Are Peaceful Christians

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KKK: We Aren’t Hatefilled Terrorists, We Are Peaceful Christians

Just last month the KKK (which has seen an increase in membership) was dropping off leaflets in Virginia on people’s lawns, claiming they aren’t hate-filled terrorists but peaceful Christians.

Now with the horrific and saddening terrorist attack on Jewish centers in Kansas the hoodies have been torn off and once again we see what kind of terrorist threat they still pose to the USA. One wonders why the FBI didn’t catch this one? Why is there a continued  focus on Muslims that only feeds anti-Muslim hysteria?

KKK: We Aren’t Hateful, We’re Christians:

Canada: Man Charged with Racial Assault on Muslim Teenage girl

What’s up with these violent old White males attacking Muslim female teenagers? Is this part of an effort to liberate them?

Man charged with racial assault on teenage girl

A Hamilton man is charged with assault after he allegedly yelled racial slurs at a teenage Muslim girl and chased her out of her apartment building.

A 17-year-old girl was heading to her apartment building on Oxford Street around 3:30 p.m. on Tuesday when a man began yelling what police say were racial slurs at her in the lobby. The man yelled at her to leave the building, said Det. Carmine Pietroniro from Hamilton Police Services’s hate crime/extremism unit.

The longer the culprit yelled, the more aggressive he became, Pietroniro said. “At that point, he tried kicking her.”

Another tenant helped restrain the man, while the victim ran to her apartment and told her mother about the incident, police say.

The two women went to the police station to report the incident. While they were there, the suspect walked in to file a report on the same incident, recognized the girl and yelled at her. Officers intervened and the 67-year-old man was arrested.

Pietroniro says he’s still not sure what the man was going to say in his report. “We’re not sure what his intentions were.”

Hamilton police investigated 122 hate-related events in 2013, two thirds of which involved prejudice involving race or ethnicity. And nearly 12 per cent involved prejudice based upon the victim’s religion.

Still, an incident as aggressive as this one is “not a common occurrence,” Pietroniro said.

Robert James Talbot Jr.: Radical-Right Terrorist Sought to Blow-up Mosques, Was A Fan of Pamela Geller

 

 

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FBI smashes alleged radical-right terror plot in Texas – US media show little interest

FBI agents in Texas have arrested a man who allegedly was plotting to use C-4 explosives and weapons to kill police officers, rob banks and armored cars, and blow up government buildings and mosques, authorities announced today.

 

Robert James Talbot Jr., 38, of Katy, Texas, was arrested Thursday on federal charges of attempted interference with commerce by robbery, solicitation to commit a crime of violence and possession of an explosive material, the FBI said.

After setting up a Facebook page called American Insurgent Movement (AIM), Talbot allegedly sought to recruit five or six like-minded people who wanted “to restore America Pre-Constitutionally and look forward to stopping the Regime with action by bloodshed.” He wrote this year on the AIM page that he was seeking people interested in “walking away from your life … to stop the regime.”

The crimes Talbot was plotting to carry out – detailed in a six-page criminal complaint filed in the Southern District of Texas – sound eerily similar to a series of terrorist attacks carried out 30 years ago by members of an infamous neo-Nazi group called The Order, also known as the Silent Brotherhood (or Brüders Schweigen in German). There’s just one big difference: Talbot talked about some of his planned crimes on Facebook, the complaint says, while The Order committed murders, robbed armored cars, and carried out a number of other attacks.

Talbot was expected to be held without bond as a flight risk and danger to the community after an initial appearance today before a U.S. magistrate judge in Houston.

Court documents say the FBI opened an investigation into Talbot’s activities last August after learning of his desire to recruit others for terror attacks. The “like-minded” individuals he initially attracted worked for the FBI, it turns out. The FBI used a confidential informant and two undercover FBI agents assigned to the agency’s Joint Terrorism Task Force.

On Oct. 18, 2013, the complaint says, Talbot asked his new recruits about their willingness to walk away from their current employment and join him in robbing banks to fund the revolution he envisioned. Talbot posted on Facebook that he had gone to four Bank of America branches to “play observation.” Talbot allegedly urged “anyone who robs these banks to kill everyone working for the ‘banking Cartels’ during the heist.”

Talbot’s Facebook post continued: “That is exactly what I will have my men do during the heist. Same goes with the Muslims. Mosques are to be a blast! With three of my guys with FA [full automatic] AK’s [AK-47 semi-automatic rifles], we will send that white house worthless piece of dirt and his Muslim brotherhood a message they will never forget.”

Southern Poverty Law Centre, 28 March 2014

See also Robyn Pennacchia, “So, did you guys hear we caught a terrorist last week?” Death and Taxes, 31 March 2014


As was the case with Anders Breivik, Talbot’s hatred of Muslims appears to have been inspired by the likes of Pamela Geller:

AIM takes inspiration from Geller

Breitbart News’ Pat Dollard Wants to Slaughter Muslims in the Street

Breitbart News’ Pat Dollard Wants to Slaughter Muslims in the Street

OK so this dullard wants to slaughter Muslims in the streets. This is acceptable speech on the Right-Wing regarding Muslims in 2014.

The sad fact is that through its two wars, dirty wars and drone program the US military has been slaughtering Muslims for quite some time now.

Conservative filmmaker Pat Dollard: “Time for Americans to start slaughtering Muslims in the streets”

Some days you feel like Twitter couldn’t get any worse. And then this happens:

The comment came as news swept Twitter of a shooting at the Fort Hood military base in Texas, where former Army psychiatrist Nidal Malik Hasan killed 13 people in 2009. The offending tweeter, Pat Dollard, himself tweeted news of the shooting as it broke, before making the aforementioned hideous statement (which, perhaps surprisingly, he has not deleted at the time of this writing).

Dollard has a long and complicated history in the public spotlight. He originally “made his name as Steven Soderbergh’s agent,” according to a 2007 Vanity Fair profile, although he has since become a self-fashioned conservative firebrand. His Twitter account lists him as a “contributing journalist” at Breitbart — whose founder, Andrew Breitbart, he counted as a personal friend. Strangely, his profile page on the conservative news organization’s website includes no actual articles.

At this moment Dullard hasn’t deleted the tweet and it has received 436 retweets and 132 favorites.:
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Nigerian Military have found a large cache of arms and ammunition in a Church

Nigerian Military have found a large cache of arms and ammunition in a Church

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The arrest of a suspected terrorist has led to the discovery of a large cache of arms and ammunition hidden in the premises of a burnt church in Kalabalge Local Government Area of Borno State.

The suspect claims to be a Cameroonian and an arms courier for the group.

A statement by the spokesman for the Military, major General Chris Olukolade, said that the weapons, which were recovered by troops include, anti-aircraft guns, rocket propelled guns as well as the general purpose and other brands of machine guns. They were found buried in the premises of one of the churches earlier burnt by terrorists.

“Also recovered from the location were thousands of various calibres of rounds of ammunition and links.The middle aged man who led troops on the cordon and search operation was one of the terrorists captured in recent raids,” the statement read.

Pending Attack

The suspect also disclosed that the weapons were stockpiled to be used in a pending attack on some communities around Nigeria-Cameroon border.

The weapons have all been evacuated while Guard locations and patrols are being maintained in the general area and the surrounding localities.

Meanwhile, troops have continued with various operations assigned to the formations involved in the counter terrorist campaign.

They carried out thorough search for terrorists in caves of a particular mountain captured overnight, where they believed some terrorists had fled to in the wake of the ongoing offensive on various terrorist enclaves.

Arms are also the object of the cordon & search.

The Chief of Army Staff, Lt Gen Kenneth Minima, has been checking on deployment & troops disposition in various locations of the theatre of the counter terrorist campaign in Adamawa, Borno and Yobe States.

The army chief, who is in company of his Airforce counterpart, Air Marshal Adesola Amosu, also visited troops, who were wounded in the course of the operation so far, in the Military Hospital in Maiduguri.

The commander of the Hospital, Brig General Okeke, assured the Chiefs that most of the wounded soldiers were in stable condition that some, who had recovered very well, had expressed their desire to re-join their units & colleagues in the operation.

Lt Gen Minima, however, directed that the hospital should not hesitate let him know the requirement for any case requiring referral or further treatment anywhere.The service chiefs are also undertaking a comprehensive air surveillance of the entire mission area in addition to the direct inspection of some key locations where operations are being conducted.

They told reporters in Maiduguri  that they were satisfied  with the state & performance of the deployment so far, noting that substantial expectations of the counterterrorist campaign was being achieved.

Last week, the Nigerian president, Goodluck Jonathan, had asked the military to rid the forest of terrorists and restore peace to the north east.

The Boko Haram sect had carried out several attacks on villages in Nigeria’s north east.

Source channelstv.com March 21, 2014

Robert James Talbot: Texas Patriot Terrorist Said it Was the Will of God to Bomb Federal Buildings

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Robert James Talbot: Texas Patriot Terrorist Said it Was the Will of God to Bomb Federal Buildings

I wonder why we haven’t heard more about this guy and isn’t it curious that he isn’t described as a terrorist?

He believed that “stopping the regime with action by bloodshed,” was the “will of God.”

HOUSTON -

A Katy man is expected to appeared in federal court Friday to face several charges, including possession of explosive materials.

Robert James Talbot Jr., 38, was arrested Thursday following an eight-month undercover investigation by the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, according to the United States Attorney’s Office.

Authorities allege Talbot wanted to recruit other “like-minded individuals” to blow up government buildings, rob banks and kill law enforcement officers.

According to the criminal complaint, Talbot created a Facebook page titled “American Insurgent Movement” (AIM), and described it as “a Pre-Constitutionalist Community that offers those who seek True patriotism and are looking for absolute Freedom by doing the Will of God. Who want to restore America Pre-Constitutionally and look forward to stopping the Regime with action by bloodshed.”

The criminal complaint also states Talbot made several postings on the page between Jan. 30 and Feb. 9, 2014, seeking people interested in “walking away from your life…to stop the regime.”

According to the complaint, Talbot posted to the page on March 15 which read:

“In a few weeks me and my team are goin active for Operation Liberty…I will not be able to post no more.  We will be the revolution, things will happen nation wide or in the states.  They will call us many names and spin things around on media.  Just remember we fight to stop Marxism, liberalism, Central banking Cartels and the New World Order.  I will try to find someone to take over this community page, but most of the guys who are admins are part of my unit.  I will have a website up in 2 months…The funding is unlimited since the banking cartel will be forced to fund our movements.”

The complaint alleges Talbot sent $500 as a down payment for the explosive devices he had requested on March 22.

Then on March 27, the complaint states Talbot and others met at a storage facility in Houston with the intent to conduct an armor car robbery. Authorities allege Talbot provided detailed maps of the target bank, an escape route, and placed two explosive devices made of C4 into his black backpack to then be placed on the armor car.

Talbot was arrested on the way to conduct the robbery by the FBI Houston Division Special Weapons and Tactics team.

He is charged with attempted interference with commerce by robbery, solicitation to commit a crime of violence and possession of an explosive material, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office.

“I believe this kid was as savvy or maybe more savvy than Timothy McVeigh, honestly I do. If he had a Terry Nichols with him, who knows what he would do?” said Terry Denny, who lived in the same boarding house as Talbot.

Denny said Talbot spent large amounts of time watching anti-government videos, and frequently talked about a cache of weapons stored in New York, although it was unclear Friday if that cache actually existed.

If convicted, authorities say Talbot faces up to a maximum penalty of 20 years imprisonment and a possible $250,000 fine for the attempted robbery, as well as another 10 years imprisonment and $100,000 fine for each of the remaining charges.

Talbot will spend the weekend in federal custody. He will see a judge on Tuesday.

Multiple law enforcement agencies assisted the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force with their investigation, including personnel from the FBI, U.S. Coast Guard Investigative Service, U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, U.S. Secret Service, Houston and Houston Metro Police Departments and the Harris County Sheriff’s Office.

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