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Here at What if they were Muslim we question what would happen if a Jewish, Christian, Hindu, ______(insert religion of choice) were to commit a crime in the name of their faith. Would it be treated the same way if a Muslim committed the exact same crime? Would very little emphasis be put on the perpetrators religion? Would it be stressed that the act is an aberration, a misrepresentation of the religion? Would the religion be mentioned at all?

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WITWM is not a site that opines on the “what if” scenario of your favorite Hollywood star being a Muslim. It has nothing to do with Angelina Jolie or Johnny Depp, etc. It has everything to do with the double standards in both media and pop culture that perpetuate the myth that Islam is inherently more violent than other religions or the root cause of misdeeds by Muslims.

Robert James Talbot: Texas Patriot Terrorist Said it Was the Will of God to Bomb Federal Buildings

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Robert James Talbot: Texas Patriot Terrorist Said it Was the Will of God to Bomb Federal Buildings

I wonder why we haven’t heard more about this guy and isn’t it curious that he isn’t described as a terrorist?

He believed that “stopping the regime with action by bloodshed,” was the “will of God.”

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A Katy man is expected to appeared in federal court Friday to face several charges, including possession of explosive materials.

Robert James Talbot Jr., 38, was arrested Thursday following an eight-month undercover investigation by the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, according to the United States Attorney’s Office.

Authorities allege Talbot wanted to recruit other “like-minded individuals” to blow up government buildings, rob banks and kill law enforcement officers.

According to the criminal complaint, Talbot created a Facebook page titled “American Insurgent Movement” (AIM), and described it as “a Pre-Constitutionalist Community that offers those who seek True patriotism and are looking for absolute Freedom by doing the Will of God. Who want to restore America Pre-Constitutionally and look forward to stopping the Regime with action by bloodshed.”

The criminal complaint also states Talbot made several postings on the page between Jan. 30 and Feb. 9, 2014, seeking people interested in “walking away from your life…to stop the regime.”

According to the complaint, Talbot posted to the page on March 15 which read:

“In a few weeks me and my team are goin active for Operation Liberty…I will not be able to post no more.  We will be the revolution, things will happen nation wide or in the states.  They will call us many names and spin things around on media.  Just remember we fight to stop Marxism, liberalism, Central banking Cartels and the New World Order.  I will try to find someone to take over this community page, but most of the guys who are admins are part of my unit.  I will have a website up in 2 months…The funding is unlimited since the banking cartel will be forced to fund our movements.”

The complaint alleges Talbot sent $500 as a down payment for the explosive devices he had requested on March 22.

Then on March 27, the complaint states Talbot and others met at a storage facility in Houston with the intent to conduct an armor car robbery. Authorities allege Talbot provided detailed maps of the target bank, an escape route, and placed two explosive devices made of C4 into his black backpack to then be placed on the armor car.

Talbot was arrested on the way to conduct the robbery by the FBI Houston Division Special Weapons and Tactics team.

He is charged with attempted interference with commerce by robbery, solicitation to commit a crime of violence and possession of an explosive material, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office.

“I believe this kid was as savvy or maybe more savvy than Timothy McVeigh, honestly I do. If he had a Terry Nichols with him, who knows what he would do?” said Terry Denny, who lived in the same boarding house as Talbot.

Denny said Talbot spent large amounts of time watching anti-government videos, and frequently talked about a cache of weapons stored in New York, although it was unclear Friday if that cache actually existed.

If convicted, authorities say Talbot faces up to a maximum penalty of 20 years imprisonment and a possible $250,000 fine for the attempted robbery, as well as another 10 years imprisonment and $100,000 fine for each of the remaining charges.

Talbot will spend the weekend in federal custody. He will see a judge on Tuesday.

Multiple law enforcement agencies assisted the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force with their investigation, including personnel from the FBI, U.S. Coast Guard Investigative Service, U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, U.S. Secret Service, Houston and Houston Metro Police Departments and the Harris County Sheriff’s Office.

Racist Slurs Scrawled in Arab Jerusalem Area

In a January 'price tag' attack on a West Bank mosque, the Hebrew graffiti read 'Blood for blood, Qusra' [AP]

In a January ‘price tag’ attack on a West Bank mosque, the Hebrew graffiti read ‘Blood for blood, Qusra’ [AP]

Racist slurs scrawled in Arab Jerusalem area

Israeli police have said that vandals have slashed car tyres and sprayed a bus with hate graffiti in a predominantly Arab neighbourhood in Jerusalem, the latest in a series of similar incidents.

Police spokeswoman Luba Samri said 34 cars were found damaged early on Monday in Beit Hanina in East Jerusalem.

She said one bus had “non-Jews in Israel = enemies” scrawled on it in Hebrew.

Samri said police were investigating the incident and searching for suspects.

Local residents told AFP news agency that security cameras at the site showed a group of men committed the crime, which bore the hallmarks of a “price tag” attack, a euphemism for hate crimes that generally target Palestinians.

Initially carried out against Palestinians in retaliation to state moves to dismantle unauthorised settler outposts, the attacks have since become a much broader phenomenon, with racist and xenophobic overtones.

Mosques, churches, dovish Israeli groups and even Israeli military bases have been targeted in the assaults, which have been widely condemned by Israeli leaders across the political spectrum.

In June, 21 cars were vandalised in a similar attack in Beit Hanina not far from Monday’s attack. Last month, the tyres of 31 cars were slashed in a Palestinian neighbourhood in the southern sector of East Jerusalem.

Burma: Buddhists/Police Rape, Attempt to Force Convert Rohingya Muslim teen

The girl’s rape case is not the first for Burmese as a report last year claimed that many Rohingya women have been raped by the Burmese military.

Rohingya Muslim Girl Gang-Raped By Police

RAKHINE – Shocking reports have surfaced about a 16-year-old Rohingya Muslim girl who was gang-raped after being arrested by police after a deadly crackdown on a remote village in Rakhine state which left dozens dead.

“I remember it clearly. Just before dawn the first Rakhine man came in. He raped me,” the 16-year-old Rohingya Muslim girl told Anadolu Agency on Wednesday, February 5.

“Then the others came in, one by one. It was four Rakhine men, and three police officers.”

The girl’s misery started when she fled her home at Rakhine’s Du Chee Yar Tan village after it was set ablaze by Buddhist mobs.

Running for her life, she was arrested by police forces to start a new episode of humiliation and attacks.

After her illegal arrest the girl was not sent to the police station, they took her to a grocery shop.

“The police took me to a market place between Du Chee Yar Tan and the Rakhine Khayae Myuing village,” she said.

“They kept me in a grocery shop. Everything was locked,” she added.

In the grocery shop the girl was tortured by the police officers who failed to force her to convert to Buddhism.

“I said no, I refused to convert,” the girl said.

“They then beat me. I was slapped. Beaten with sticks,” she explained.

The girl’s rape followed the attack which was reported last month by UN humanitarian chiefs and human rights organizations .

The attack resulted in the massacre of at least 48 Rohingya Muslims, mostly women and children, in Burma’s western Rakhine State.

Official media and the Ministry of Information have strongly refuted the reports.

Yet, a Thailand-based NGO, the Arakan Project, said it had received multiple reports that dozens of Rohingya Muslims were killed by security forces and Arakanese Buddhists.

The incident, just the latest in a string of attacks that left at least 240 people dead and more than 140,000 homeless or displaced in prison-like camps, caused terror in the Muslim Yangon community.

Fear

After the incident, the 16-year-old girl couldn’t visit doctor as her family feared consequences.

The helpless family had given the girl a medicine to prevent pregnancy, which they got from a local makeshift pharmacy.

Seeking justice the complaining girl said: “I still remember their faces. I can point them out if I see them again.”

The girl’s rape case is not the first for Burmese as a report last year claimed that many Rohingya women have been raped by the Burmese military.

Described by the UN as one of the world’s most persecuted minorities, Rohingya Muslims are facing a catalogue of discrimination in their homeland.

They have been denied citizenship rights since an amendment to the citizenship laws in 1982 and are treated as illegal immigrants in their own home.

The Burmese government as well as the Buddhist majority refuse to recognize the term “Rohingya”, referring to them as “Bengalis”.

Rights groups have accused the Burmese security forces of killing, raping and arresting Rohingyas following the sectarian violence last year.

Hundreds of thousands of Muslims have been forced to flee their homes in western Burma since June after attacks from Buddhist mobs on their areas.

The violence has displaced nearly 29,000 people, more than 97 percent of whom are Rohingya Muslims, according to the United Nations.

Many now live in camps, adding to 75,000 mostly Rohingya displaced in June 2012, after a previous explosion of sectarian violence.

FBI: Men planned guerilla war against federal agencies

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FBI: Men planned guerilla war against federal agencies

The FBI  does have a history of thwarting their own terror plots but I bet you won’t see the following story on the Islamophobia sites. Also if they were Muslim they would have been charged with ‘terrorism’ and other assorted offenses.

FBI: Men planned guerilla war against federal agencies

By  Carolyn Grindrod (RN-T)

Three Romans arrested on federal firearms charges over the weekend were allegedly trying to obtain pipe bombs and other explosives to carry out guerilla warfare-style attacks against government facilities, according to Federal Bureau of Investigations agents.

Terry Eugene Peace, 45; Brian Edward Cannon, 36; and Cory Robertson Williamson, 28 — all of 22 Tumlin Drive — have each been charged under federal law with conspiracy to receive and possess a firearm.

The three men were being held at Floyd County Jail for the U.S. Marshals Service on Wednesday, following their first appearance Tuesday in federal magistrate court.

The group was arrested in Cartersville during an FBI-led operation that included FBI SWAT and the police departments of Rome, Floyd County and Bartow County.

According to the affidavit and criminal complaint filed by FBI Agent Adam Roland:

The three men participated in online chat discussions between Jan. 23 and Feb. 15 that were monitored by the FBI.

During the online conversations they discussed using guerilla war tactics and planned to launch the attacks against the government this month. They specifically targeted several federal agencies, including the Transportation Security Administration, Department of Homeland Security and Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Peace talked with an FBI “confidential human source”  on Feb. 8 about getting several explosive devices, including a thermite-mix charge strong enough “to go through the engine block of a MRPA.”

An MRPA — mine-resistant ambush protection vehicle — is an armored vehicle used in the military and law enforcement.

Peace also told the FBI source he wanted pipe bombs constructed for “maximum fragmentation.”

“If he can hook us up with, say, 12 pipe bombs, that will be sweet,” said Peace, according the report.

That same day, Cannon had a conversation with another source and stated the group was planning to “start the fight” with the government by strategically sabotaging power grids, transfer stations, and water treatment facilities — in hopes of a declaration of martial law.

“Cannon claimed this action would cause mass hysteria and if enough sabotage was successful, then martial law, therefore trigging other militias to join the fight,” Roland’s report stated.

On Feb. 13, Peace, Cannon and Williamson went to the Country Sportsman on Shorter Avenue in Rome. There, Peace bought a Mossberg .308 caliber rifle as well as scope, stand and gun case.

The group planned to meet in Tennessee on Feb. 15 with the first FBI source, which they believed was working with them to get the explosives. The meeting location was later changed to a location in Cartersville.

FBI agents had given the source 12 inert pipe bombs and two thermite devices. When Peace, Cannon and Williams took possession of the items, agents swooped down and arrested them.

Three rifles were found in the cab of the truck. Peace and Cannon, who were both wearing body armor, were armed with pistols.

The men were initially held in the Bartow County Jail but transferred to the Floyd County Jail after their Tuesday hearing in Rome.

Meth-smoking white supremacist was able to buy tons of assault rifles despite felony record

Meth-smoking white supremacist was able to buy tons of assault rifles despite felony record

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In America, a white supremacist methamphetamine addict with a felony had no problem amassing a large collection of assault rifles and ammo despite felonies.

“Last spring, U.S. Forest Service police caught Parks and a gaggle of others smoking meth and shooting semi-automatic assault rifles in the Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest,” reports the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

“Searching the 38-year-old Belfair resident’s home weeks later, police found white supremacist materials – flags and patches related to a racist religious movement – and more guns.”

Lakkhikanto Karmakar alias Shyama beheaded a newborn in Bankura, India and then licked its blood

Ritual sacrifice … The scene where a baby’s head was discovered. Source: Supplied

 

Lakkhikanto Karmakar alias Shyama beheaded a newborn in Bankura, India and then licked its blood

A MAN has been sentenced to death after he confessed to beheading a newborn and licking the blood dripping from its severed head as people watched horrified.

Describing it as a rarest of the rare case, a regional court in India determined occultist Lakhikanta Karmakar guilty of murder yesterday and applied a sentence of capital punishment.

The accused, who went under the alias Shyama, from Bankura village, carried out the attack in full view at the graveyard of a local Kali temple where he had built a makeshift shrine in 2012 .

At the time witnesses reported seeing a baby’s head hanging from a tree and Karmakar licking the blood that was trickling down the severed neck.

Police were uncertain as to the motive for a human sacrifice but said they had found the dagger used and pictures of the baby’s head hanging from a rope. The torso is was never found and the parents haven’t been located.

“(He) was convicted and a fast track court considered the case to be the rarest of the rare and awarded him the death penalty,” public prosecutor A.K. Chattopadhyay told local media.

Arrest … Police and the public surround Lakkhikanto Karmakar after the baby’s body was found. Picture: India TV Source: Supplied

“There is a possibility that Karmakar didn’t murder the child but picked up its body from somewhere near the crematorium,” police told the Times of India at the time of the arrest. “People who claim to be tantriks perform such gruesome rituals to fool villagers into believing in their powers.”

Karmakar had been a tantrik for only a short time before his arrest – someone who practises the ancient Indian tradition of meditation and rituals known as tantra.

A number of people reportedly started beating the accused up and police took their time to rescue him from a near lynching.

Police say Karmakar has a long rap sheet and, along with his mother, Suli, used to target unwed girls looking to abort their foetuses.

“We have seized the dagger but the post-mortem report is awaited,” Bankura police officer Pranav Kumar said.

“Our records say Karmakar was arrested several times for serious offences like robbery and extortion. He seems to have turned into a tantrik a few months ago.”

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“It’s a scene of absolute brutality”

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“It’s a scene of absolute brutality”

Peter Bouckaert, Emergency Director of Human Rights Watch, has just returned from the Central African Republic.

Peter, along with his HRW team, has given this program exclusive footage documenting horrific violence, destruction and the mass exodus of Muslims from the country which the United Nations says amounts to “ethnic cleansing”.

Peter Bouckaert told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour “the Muslim population of the Central African Republic is facing an unprecedented wave of violence”.

“We were in the country for just over three weeks and personally witnessed 12 lynching’s or attempted lynching’s… it’s a scene of absolute brutality in the Central African Republic at the moment,” he says.

The Central African Republic was plunged into chaos last year after a coalition of mostly Muslim rebels dubbed ‘Seleka’ ousted president Francois Bozize.

They have since been forced out of power but Christian militias known as the anti-balaka have been allowed to fill the power vacuum.

Peter Bouckaert says more peacekeeping troops are needed on the ground.

“The small presence of the African peacekeepers and the French peacekeepers is simply not enough to stop the violence. We have gone out to many of these communities and people are really desperate to stop these attacks… We need a much larger peacekeeping presence, hopefully a full UN peacekeeping mission so this violence can stop and the Muslim community can continue to live in this country where they have lived for generations and generations. It will take a much greater international effort than what is underway at the moment”.

Click above to watch Amanpour’s interview with Peter Bouckaert.

Another non-terrorist non-Muslim Plane Hijacker: The Sochi Plot

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Another non-terrorist non-Muslim Plane Hijacker: The Sochi Plot

By Juan Cole, Informed Comment

The Associated Press article on the Ukrainian hijacker who tried to divert a plane to Sochi on Friday is interesting for the words it does not use. (I’m not picking on AP– all the other articles on this subject are like this one in this regard.)

This Ukrainian man had political discontents about his own country of Ukraine, which appears to be one of his motivations in trying to grab the limelight in Sochi. He told the crew that he had placed a bomb on the plane.

The crew of the airplane cleverly diverted to Istanbul and told the hijacker it was Sochi. Negotiators then got him to let the passengers go. Security men mingled among the departing passengers and then grabbed the hijacker. They found no sign of a bomb on the plane.

Note that this Ukrainian, presumably an Eastern Orthodox Christian, threatened to blow up an airplane full of innocents.

He was foiled by Turkish Muslims.

The articles on the Ukrainian hijacker do not refer to him as a “terrorist,” even though threatening to blow up a plane in order to make a political point is clearly terrorism by most definitions of the word.

If the hijacker had been a Muslim, the press would certainly have declared him a terrorist and the fact that he threatened to bomb the plane would not have been taken lightly.

Now it is being said that he was very drunk. Next we will begin hearing that the Ukrainian hijacker is mentally unbalanced. But Muslims who act in this crazy way are never viewed as troubled loners even when it seems pretty obvious that that is what they are.

That Muslim Turks are among the heroes of this story won’t be mentioned explicitly by any of the Islamophobic web sites who constantly stalk innocent Muslims.

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AP reports on the hijacking attempt:

Muslims Flee Central African Republic’s Capital

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Muslims Flee Central African Republic’s Capital

When conflict first broke out  in C.A.R. last March, many, especially Islamophobes characterized the Seleka rebels as motivated by religion, when in fact their grievances and motivations were political and economic. A simplistic narrative of crazed, fanatical Islamic fighters attacking and killing poor, defenseless Christians was broadcast wide and far.

As innocent Muslims are killed, injured and forced into exile and mosques are destroyed the same media has been conspicuously silent. Part of the reason is that what happens in Africa, especially below the Sahara is of no consequence to them, for instance how often do we hear of the over decade long war in the Congo in which over 6 million souls have died?

Muslims Flee Central African Republic’s Capital

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Thousands of Muslims climbed aboard trucks protected by heavily armed Chadian soldiers in a mass exodus Friday from the capital of Central African Republic. Their flight follows months of escalating attacks on anyone perceived as supporting a now-defunct Muslim rebel government blamed for scores of atrocities during its rule of this predominantly Christian country.

In The Hague, Netherlands, the prosecutor of the International Criminal Court announced a preliminary investigation into potential war crimes or crimes against humanity in Central African Republic, saying the crisis has “gone from bad to worse” since September.

Along the streets of Bangui, crowds of Christians gathered to cheer the convoy’s departure for the neighboring country of Chad, which is mostly Muslim. It was an acrid farewell to their Muslim neighbors who had in some cases lived alongside Christians for generations here and have few ties to Chad.

The dangers for those who stayed behind were clear: One man who tumbled from the precariously overloaded trucks was brutally slain, witnesses said.

“He didn’t even have the time to fall — he landed into the hands of the angry mob who then lynched him at the scene,” said Armando Yanguendji, a resident of the Gobongo district who witnessed the horror.

Another truck in the same neighborhood escaped attack from Christian militiamen only when Burundian peacekeepers fired into the air to disperse the crowd trying to assault the convoy, he said. Some trucks broke down even before they could leave Bangui on Friday and had to be abandoned. The passengers jumped aboard other trucks, facing constant jeering, threats and stone-throwing from the spectators.

“The Christians say the Muslims must go back where they came from — that’s why we are going home,” said Osmani Benui as she fled Bangui. “We couldn’t stay here because we had no protection.”

They did have protection as they departed. Chadian special forces went along as well as Seleka rebels in cars, armed with pistols and AK-47s. The convoy of some 500 cars, trucks and motorcycles strained under the weight of people’s belongings.

The aid group Medecins Sans Frontieres, or Doctors Without Borders, said Friday that tens of thousands of Muslims have now fled to Chad and Cameroon. The U.N. refugee agency said that almost 9,000 people have fled to Cameroon in the last 10 days, bringing the number of refugees in Cameroon to 22,000 since current began.

“It really is a horrific situation. All over Bangui, entire Muslim neighborhoods are being destroyed and emptied,” said Peter Bouckaert, emergencies director for Human Rights Watch, who has gotten trapped Muslims to safety under the guard of peacekeepers.

“Their buildings are being destroyed and being taken apart, brick by brick, roof by roof, to wipe out any sign of their once existence in this country,” he added.

Hundreds sought refuge at a mosque in Bangui’s predominantly Muslim PK5 neighborhood.

But the dangers are not limited to the capital. Entire communities remain trapped in parts of northwest Central African Republic, according to the Medecins Sans Frontieres statement. A Muslim community of more than 8,000 people in Bouar “remains effectively imprisoned, unable to flee the violence.”

“We are concerned about the fate of these communities trapped in their villages, surrounded by anti-Balaka groups, and also about the fact that many Muslim families are being forced into exile to survive,” said Martine Flokstra, MSF emergency coordinator.

U.N. deputy spokesman Farhan Haq said that nearly 840,000 people remain displaced inside the country, and “with no immediate prospect to return home as the rainy season begins, the refugee agency fears a worsening crisis.”

The U.N. refugee agency warned of a high risk of cholera and other public health problems, particularly in Bangui, where more than 413,000 people still live in makeshift sites.

In announcing the International Criminal Court’s preliminary investigation, prosecutor Fatou Bensouda cited reports of “hundreds of killings, acts of rape and sexual slavery, destruction of property, pillaging, torture, forced displacement and recruitment and use of children in hostilities.” She added that “in many incidents, victims appear to have been deliberately targeted on religious grounds.”

The ICC is the world’s permanent war crimes tribunal, established in 2002 to investigate and punish atrocities when member states are unwilling or unable to do so themselves. Central African Republic is a member.

Although most of Central African Republic’s roughly 4.6 million citizens are Christian, there is a sizeable Muslim population in its north near the borders with Sudan and Chad.

Fighting in the country has worsened since last March, when an alliance of Muslim rebel groups from the north united to overthrow the president of a decade.

Although their grievances were political and economic — not religious — fighting has taken on an increasingly sectarian tone since then.

The rebels, known as Seleka, were aided by Chadian and Sudanese mercenaries. They quickly became despised by Christians in the capital after the fighters went on looting sprees, raping and killing civilians at random. An armed Christian movement known as the anti-Balaka, aided by loyalists of ousted President Francois Bozize, began retaliating several months later.

Christian fighters attempted to overthrow the Muslim rebel government in early December, sparking unprecedented bloodshed that left more than 1,000 people dead in a matter of days. An untold number have died in the weeks that followed, with most of the attacks in Bangui targeting Muslims.

The Muslim rebel leader who took power last March has stepped aside, and the country is currently being led by former Bangui Mayor Catherine Samba-Panza as interim president.

In recent weeks, angry mobs have set fire to mosques and have brutally killed and mutilated Muslims. On Wednesday, one Muslim suspected of having aided last year’s rebellion was attacked for 15 minutes with knives, bricks and feet by army soldiers shortly after Samba-Panza had left the scene. Men in uniform then paraded his body through the streets before it was dismembered and set ablaze.

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Christian Patrols Roam Around With “Bait Crews” to Provoke Muslims

 

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Remember the massive controversy over the kooky blowhards known as the “Muslim Patrols?”

They were obviously swiftly condemned but Islamophobes made huge hay out of it, will they equally call out the racists and anti-Muslim hatemongers in “Britain First?”

What if they were Muslim?

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